I have no idea if any of that which is written below is correct. How could I? I suppose I could do research but my opinions are never based on facts, so why start now? I was just wondering why the economy is so flat and further….is there a good time to make a break for it? Just musin’, mostly.
Is there a natural time to stop playing? Is there a time for everyone to quit the rat race? Is there an ideal time to move off the material grid?
I don’t imagine so. We are all so different. But young people are especially (read: hormonally) driven to find mates and so that fact alone suggests that the 20-somethings are more inclined to seek the largest gene pool available and that’s in the city. Swimming in the gene pool is expensive. Living in the city is expensive. Young people drive the economy.
Thirty-somethings are usually fully engaged in whatever career they are pursuing and, if not, usually still looking for one to pursue. If they have mates and children, those two factors mitigate to staying in the city and working and spending to do it all. Thirty somethings sustain the economy.
There aren’t many forty-year-olds out here. They are economic sustainers, too. I guess if you are forty or so and have NOT YET been kicked out or committed to opting out, you are, by circumstance, pretty locked in to the major circuits and drains of the city and all that that requires. Of course, there are exceptions but I don’t know any.
We have always had the marginalized but I think we have more now. The homeless, the mentally ill, the under and unemployed, the millenials who never left the basement…these people are just not playing in the game.
But, by far, the largest contingent of new opters-out and OTG’ers are 50 to 65 year olds. They are the retirees. They may already be rich and retire early, they may be late in that contingent and simply retire modestly or else they may have had the dream for decades and are slowly making the move incrementally. For many of them, they are making the REMOVE. If there is a new face in the sparser, non-competitive population, it is usually someone checking out around 55 to 60.
So, maybe 55/65 is the natural time-to-exit group? There is no question that the majority of OTG’ers out here are 55+. But I am still not so sure that indicates much except that it is true in our time. And in our place. It was true for me and Sal. It was true for many of the folks we know. But there are plenty of exceptions, too. So, hard to say.
But one commonality is largely true for all of us (at whatever age) who were rejected or who opted out: we are not huge consumers. In our case, our consumption levels dropped off because our kids fledged and we moved from a fast-paced urban setting which required high consumption levels so as to keep up with the Jones’s and to buy the convenience necessary to make more money. To be fair, we ‘consumed’ a lot getting ourselves established out here (although, no more than we would have in the city just living there) but, since then, our needs and wants have been reduced by 75%. We simply do not buy as much as we did even in our thirties.
The point of all this musing in demographics is ultimately economics: Marginals, urban retirees and OTG’ers do not constitute much of a market. Never have. Nor do those who are exiled by early retirement or illness even if they live in the city. Of course, there are plenty of products we can buy and employ for our use and convenience and we do. But products specifically aimed at early retirees or OTG’er are rare. Products aimed at the marginals are non-existent.
I suppose more and more products and services are being generated for the ‘aging-in-place’ generation but that is a zero sum market. A good example is a retirement home. The regular, good ‘customer’ is relatively short-lived, so to speak. Hard ot build up a steady clientele. And even if oldsters still buy, they don’t buy big and they don’t buy big-ticket items. Few, if any, move up-scale, they down-size. Ninety year-olds don’t have two-foot-itis nor do they lust for the latest muscle car. When you are old, OTG or urban, you simply buy less. The marginalized consume even less.
Another way of looking at the lower consumption levels for me is simply looking at what I can buy out here. Virtually nothing. We have no stores, no restaurants, no services. One can hire local help for some transportation issues and maybe lumber supply. Maybe. Sometimes a heavy machine is available but, most often not. And that is also true of older urbanites. They don’t shop for fun any more. They aren’t accumulating. Fashion does not motivate them. They don’t want for much.
You might say, “So what?”
Well, here’s the point: the homeless, the early retirees, the OTG’er and the perpetually unemployed are a bit like the financial canary in the capitalist coal mine. They were rejected or opted out early and are no longer heavy consumers. And that contingent is growing. Fast. Add in the ‘greening’ effect and people are buying less, recycling more and being less indulgent. I think. So, I am saying less consumption is a growing phenomena.
It is very much a function of age. That’s for sure. And, in particular, our lifestyle seems to accelerate that. So, we who used to be drivers of the economy are no longer doing so. The bulge of the boomers marching to retirement is going to magnify that.
As people get increasingly marginalized as a consequence of inequality or incapacity or age they stop playing the capitalist game. They cease to spend as much. Ergo, the economy is flagging.
And you can see it. The global downturn may be simply demographics. It seems so. Japan aged faster than the rest of the world and it’s economy has waned for some time. And, at a smaller scale, we have plenty of older friends in the city and those living OTG and they are not spending as much either. Large chunks of the consumer population are dropping off the statistical consumer radar. Those of us older OTG’ers are just the early and more noticeable balers. The urban old bale, too. The dysfunctionals never had a chance.
The point: we will have zero to negative economic growth for the foreseeable future. And it may be partly my fault.
What you write is correct. There are undercurrents with young folks trying to get established while refusing to pay top dollar for anything. People are picking up used lumber from the side of the road and building stuff out of it. Using it or flipping it. You are correct about people having too much stuff and the desire to get rid of it. This level of the economy goes unreported and mostly untaxed but it’s thriving not like the rest of the economy.
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I am sure the underground economy is growing but that, combined with the conventional economy shrinking, is creating a larger divide than just the usual haves and have-nots. That unbalanced effect is influencing the whole of it. It’s shrinking the whole of the economy – the underground and the top side of it.
Normally, 1st world countries turn to immigrants to bring the fire-in-the-belly but I don’t see that happening as much. For many, the 1st world’s ghettos are good enough, it seems. Coming from the favelas of the world, Jane and Finch (TO) and the Downtown Eastside don’t seem so bad.
With the eroding middle class, the rich getting richer…are we seeing the start of the slow ghetto-izing of the 1st world?
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Interesting.
Most of the guys I’m aquainted with at work are skilled tradesmen and
a) soon to be retired or
b) retired and called back to work as “contractors” due to a lack of skilled, experienced tradesmen to replace them……
EVERYONE that has retired has either sold and moved to Vancouver Island
or is planning to move out of the Lower mainland upon retirement.
The majority of household debtors in the Lower Mainland are Generation X types( 30-40) and they are assuming massive amounts of debt at an alarming rate. One wonders when this Silver Tsunami of Boomers really gets going and house sales outstrip buyers what that will do to the price of housing in Lotusland….
Everywhere in Canada is seeing house prices plummet with the exception of Vancouver and Toronto…..we’re next…..and it aint gonna be pretty.
I went to Safeway today. Took a glance at the selection of meat. Chicken, Pork and Beef. I have never seen such a pathetic selection and the prices were ridiculous.
Have you raised chickens in your little OTG nirvana? Or is the thought of ISIS style head lopping for the little cluckers a little too “back to nature”…………
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Oh, and dont forget to stock up on these if Japan is any indication of what an aging population foretells
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwizrMDM2vXKAhWILmMKHfL5BFMQqQIISDAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bloomberg.com%2Fnews%2Farticles%2F2016-02-11%2Fthe-adult-diaper-market-is-about-to-take-off&usg=AFQjCNEhrpLwkCeA9QhU50ddhX_z_GNJXw&sig2=vhoiDnSYTjj3jiVlzmERRw&bvm=bv.114195076,d.cGc
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Oddly, I can ‘do’ a chicken….but I still am unresolved about shooting a deer. I think it is the eyelashes.
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Blame Globalization.
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Couldn’t have said it better! The consequences of the above will have a drastic effect on the life that we have come accustomed to. In order for our debt based monetary system to work , more debt needs to be created and the demographics won’t support that requirement. We’re living in interesting times , I think the Keynesians will be seen with no swimming suits on when the tide goes out. Time will tell !
Hope all is well with you and Sally!
Liberty Ranger
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Fresh crab sushi with sake. Couple of gyoza. Thinkin’ maybe oysters tomorrow night. It simply does not get better than this. Sal and I are happy. We have a nice ‘project’ and all is right with our world. Sorry to be so smugly happy on ya but, what can I say? Happiness is NOT being out there!
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Liberty Ranger? Interesting moniker. There a story there you can share?
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Don’t worry about the economy. Wayne is taking care of that for both of us. We must be at the end of buying adult toys to play with, or at least I hope so.
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‘adult toys’ can be misread, Margy. I am assuming you mean BIG BOY’s toys. Engines. Guns. Tractors. Things with tracks and big levers and horsepower….arraghh. Wayne wants a digger, doesn;t he? makes sense living on a houseboat. Classic guy stuff.
If you can, steer him towards the silicone enhanced blow-up toys that have names. Disgusting but so much cheaper.
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Yep.
“adult toys” gets you into a whole new world of the internet where most people never want to tread…….
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