I am assuming that you have all kept up with the C-19 pandemic. I am sure most people have all over the world. But I am writing because I just changed my mind/attitude/fear level AGAIN. I now think it is worse by twice….meaning: I am thinking about taking a few extra steps.
“What changed your mind?”
Ontario Health is projecting our ‘lockdown’ or response phase on this virus may last as long as 24 months. That’s a possible game changer. It feels like it might be.
C-19 is a killer. People will die. It will get much uglier. But that is NOT what changed my mind. I already knew that. Death happens. Sometimes in bunches. For me, the bigger issue is the prolonged time. Two years is massively disruptive to a pretty fragile, just-in-time, built-for-profit social system.
Emergencies that last a few days, seem to change little (like ice storms, blackouts, etc.) for the larger society. Emergencies that endure a couple of weeks make much more significant impacts (Hurricanes, floods, battles and terrorism) and, when that happens, the local area is in a rebuilding/renovation phase for a considerably longer time (Haiti, Katrina, etc) – weeks and months. But a slow-burn, drawn-out crisis has the potential for changing supply lines, institutions, services, civil behaviours, even infrastructure.
Twenty four months of disruption may derail our modern society even more significantly than might a natural disaster that we had previously found more common. For those ‘common’ disasters we seem to have some kind of typical response plan even if those responses are usually found somewhat wanting for those suffering.
We do not have such a plan for this emergency. We do not have a typical response to this. And, worse, it seems that the response we do have is already strained to the max as well as starting to come apart. And the virus is still in the growth phase. I do not think the ‘system’ can hold for 24 months.
When I say that, I am not implying chaos and anarchy, zombies and armed Bubbas, starvation and contagion. I am not suggesting that this is the apocalypse. But I am saying that such a possibility is now (possibly) on the radar. Disruption is likely approaching. I feel I have to at least think about it. A lot. And I feel as if I had better be prepared to act on my new thoughts.
I am not alone. If the general population is steady now at say, Defcon 5 (alert and responding), I am at Defcon 2. (freaked). I just feel as if I have to do more.
“Like what?”
Well, we have enough food and water for months. But not 24 months unless I start to kill deers and, even then, that is helluva lot of venison sandwiches to suffer through. So food supplies have to be looked at. And so it goes. Our medications will not last that long either. Gas for the boat? Propane for the stove? And that is just the OBVIOUS wrenches-in-the-works that pop up. As you know, an emergency is something very hard to plan for. What will the next emergent’event’ look like?
“Dave! Calm down.”
I am calm. But, when things change, it is prudent to adjust to the change. I think Ontario Health just changed the BIG picture.
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Wow, wow and wow. CTV has been pushing 24/7 to develop the C 19 virus apocalypse story. Now why would CTV want a failure? We hear comments about it is time for the “hipster beard” to go! Dave there is a serious health threat and you and Sally are well positioned to avoid it. I get it that for some media organizations see an opportunity to exploit a serious situation. Ford is currently being rehabilitated into a soft compassionate caring C 19 opportunist. Dave do not drink the coolaid!
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You may be misreading me. I am NOT afraid (any more than anyone else) of C-19. I am afraid of having 24 months of supplies, services and infrastructure disrupted. And, guess what? NOT SO MUCH for me! I use less than 10% what urban people use of the larger system. So, why am I worried?
I care about others?
How does society as a whole react/adjust/respond/accept 24 months of shutdown? My guess – NOT well. Trump, for instance, commandeered Canada’s and Germany’s face masks just like that and so the local ‘ladies who quilt’ are all full-on making masks. GOOD response. But what do we do when we can’t get food? Or power goes out for longer and longer periods? Or the ladies run out of thread? We have to adjust.
I am OK. Most of us will be OK. I do not think this is the end of the world. But I do think we have to adjust. And quickly.
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I do not think you are afraid. In Sweden one can get a hair cut, go shopping and not experience the restrictions that Canada has in place. Sweden is fighting the virus but not at the cost of killing the economy. People with symptoms are advised to stay home. A prediction of a two year lock down if true would be catastrophic. It is reasonable to suggest that the USA will be trying to restart its economy soon. The US Fox media is attacking how China handled the pandemic. So perhaps the US will take a page from what Sweden is doing. The next few weeks will be one unvarnished political opportunism as the handling of the virus is attacked. A great deal of money is being shoveled out the door to a group people that some have judged to be undeserving. Who is deserving of government help will be the political battle and debate
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I sincerely hope that any battles are of the political type. Let ’em posture, lie and pontificate all they want. But Trump also prevaricated and now the citizenry is gonna pay. And when the US feels pain, they share it around. We will feel their pain quite a bit.
The best thing would be for the virus to fade away in much less time than Ontario predicted. Let the experts be wrong (as usual). But, that information was fought over. Many didn’t want it released. They did it anyway. So that cat is out of the bag. Right or wrong, it is a possible new variable. They could be wrong but obviously some experts are saying that it could be 24 months.
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The data set changes daily. To extrapolate daily changing data into a perceived reliable prediction about the future course of the C 19 virus two years in the future?
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NO prediction is reliable. That is why it is called a prediction. But that is their best guess for now and they are privy to more information than I am. Ignoring them seems silly.
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C’mon Dave! This was Doug Ford talking! He’s freaked because he pulled a Trump and downplayed the whole thing in the beginning and now he realizes he screwed up. So, he’s trying to scare people into complying when they can barely believe anything that comes out of his mouth.
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All of you are right. I am just saying we have moved closer to an imminent disaster. I give it a 20% chance of happening. Gut feel. But still, why pretend that it WON’T happen? Isn’t that even sillier? It all goes nice real soon, then I am wrong. No loss. It it all goes to Hell, then I have a bit of a head start. Given where and how I live, make that a two-head start.
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I’m pleased to hear that it is only a 20% chance that in two years we will be going to hell in a hand cart. It was announced today that a fifteen minute test has been developed to detect C 19 and will be released on Tuesday. This will allow a means to see how wide spread the virus has become. Part of the sheltering at home was an outcome not having enough data on the virus’ spread.
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You are right once again (rare for you to go two in a row, Sid). The dire prediction I am responding to assumes virtually no successful intervention and, like you, I think they are working 24/7 on that. That is the main reason for the visceral 1 chance in 5 scenario I postulated. Without THAT ‘science-at-work’ factor, I would say 50/50. But everybody with a white coat is messing with this. They may interdict this thing successfully. I really hope so. Soon would be better than later, of course. It would be a shame if only my genes were the ones to ‘carry on’.
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We have been had. A very slick and well planned operation. The shell companies’ planning and hiring of the scientists, who will work bringing us the solution, was already underway before the problem began (pandemic was released). Those holding the patents (on both the man made sickness, and the coming vaccine cure) were bold enough to openly hold a training exercise just 2 months before the outbreak (Event 201, sounding so eerily similar to the globalist’s Agenda 21!). Their stated time line until availability of the coming vaccine: 18 to 24 months. Coincidentally, the same predicted time frame that we’ll be forced to suffer this society ending martial law.
By then, of course, the world’s people are going to be screaming for the solution. The vaccine solution will include a mark proving you have been vaccinated. That mark will be required to travel, buy or sell. This is my opinion and prediction based on research. Wanted to get it on record here.
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Kev, you know I think you are a bit of a nut….but a really good guy…who is a bit nutty about conspiracies. I am just a reluctant conspirator. Those ‘everyday’ dickheads can’t make the planes fly on time. Hell, the bridges fall down. Even the hospital ship Trump sent to NY ‘accidentally’ admitted C-19 infected people thus screwing up that token attempt at mitigating the virus. Most people can’t wipe their butt and talk on the phone at the same time. Conspiracies assume genius.
Still, you MIGHT be right. I doubt it. But maybe. I think that C-19 being a conspiracy is way less likely than my 5:1 doomsday scenario. Still, when you look at it, we are both just guessing. C’mon….any of those conspirators phone you for your opinion on any of it? They do NOT call me, that’s for sure (mind you, my cell service is poor). I am just guessing. And I posit that you are, too. But thanks. I know it is because you are a good guy and care. Let us hope you are also a nut.
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We don’t have to hope Dave! He’s already there. If Kevin really thinks that this was well planned and already underway in January, he’s giving way too much credence to those in charge.
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I agree. I have encountered few geniuses. And of those I have met, most of them are brilliant in one narrow sliver of expertise. I have never met a generalist genius.
To believe in an evil (rich, strategic, connected, popular, evil) genius who is trying to take over the world is speaking to something personal in the believer. The facts just do not bear that out. Maybe Putin…?
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Well Kelvin that is a dire prediction, what are your plans to deal with it? Given that the UN has taken your guns or so the conspiracy unfolds. In the concentration camps of WW 2 some interned Jewish prisoners sewed themselves imitation Nazi uniforms. A sure sigh of impotence. Not sure having a mind full of dire predictions is helpful to you. Please think clearly!
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I see a new book blooming! Take all the “we are all going to die!” Mix in a bit of Kevin’s conspiracy, post you and Sally as the calm and maybe spiritual guidance to the new world . Have to be fiction though as you are never all that calm. 😊
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Virulence Off the Grid? Adventures With Covid? Hand Cleansing for Dummies?
Seven Habits of Those Who Die From Old Age? Covid-19, A Personal-Space Odyssey? I’ll have to think about the plot but only AFTER I have a catchy title.
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I look at a lot of the “Death” , “Destruction”, “Doom” as “fear porn” by the various media ghouls that live and thrive on pumping out the most dire predictions possible.
Makes everyone “stay tuned” while we watch more advertising….
Dont get me started on the internet conspiracy insanity that seems to have boiled over.
Stock market is up today.
Toilet paper is back on the shelves.
Liquor store is open.
I’m still working full time.
Covid19 isnt my biggest fear.
Its the asinine govt expenditures $190 BILLION dollars for this year deficit budget alone.
Fiscal ramifications for decades to come. Higher taxes, user fees , etc.
But you can be sure there will be paint for rainbow crosswalks and pink T-shirts.
Lets see how much money there is in 1 year or two after the cities, provinces and feds have had their precious tax revenues gutted.
2 years from now the recriminations of our govt unpreparedness will still be dragging through the mud.
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Today’s National Post
https://nationalpost.com/news/cities-bleeding-cash-because-of-covid-19-could-be-next-financial-domino-to-fall-for-federal-government?video_autoplay=true
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It is of note that C 19 is being characterized as putting countries on a war footing. Canada is at war with the C 19 virus. During war time the money supply is increased by the issuing of government bonds that the government promises to repay with interest. The Bank of Canada controls the money supply and is responsible for liquidity in our financial system. How this liquidity is achieved is a mystery to some and many suspect a slight of hand. Let’s suppose that there is some magical thinking involved with Canada’s money supply! The best scenario for the tax payer is low unemployment, high confidence in our economic system and amnesia about how money is created. How an individual handles his household finances, budgets, spends, saves, repays debt is not analogous to how a central government organizes its financial house. It is a trope that critics of governmental financing often claim that it ought to be analogous to how households finance function. I do not need to point out that government deficit spending is the third rail of political debate. Best to think of this current round of deficit spending as imperative in a time of virus war.
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I agree with that. They just hit the ‘print’ button and ‘create’ more money whenever they feel they must. Doing so weakens the dollar (for us) but strengthens trade balances (because our dollar is cheaper). It is good for the government, bad for the individual living in a global market. Eventually, we’ll all be working for pesos (except the peso is dropping even faster). Magical thinking is the modus operendi. NonCon is a hard-working earner. To him, they are diluting his wealth. I am a retiree. To me, they are diluting my savings and pension. To them, they are keeping the Concordia afloat.
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True enough about the Canuck buck.
I order supplies from the US.
$20,000 US = $29,000 Can
Moving forward.
My quotations have to reflect a potentially wildly whipsawing canuck buck….
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Boris Johnson is now in intensive care, will the C 19 virus be hitting hard other blond politicians? Iranian politicians are also being hit hard by C 19. The Iranian Health Minister is shown on TV hacking his guts out as the TV interviewer looks fearful. Stupidity is a bigger threat than the virus!
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Stupidity, fear, systems-we-rely-on….all things with potentially as much, if not greater impact, than the disease itself. Just TRY to quantify what Trump’s withholding of masks to Canada has done for national relationship for instance.
When sailing in strong weather, the sailor relies on his/her systems and best practices so as NOT to sink or suffer damage but every sailor has had a bad day at sea. The worst day is when three things go wrong at much the same time. A quick response by a skilled sailor can handle the first emergency. A little adrenaline and panic can help with the second. But, by the time the third thing goes wrong that sailor is having a very hard time. That’s when the accident happens. And this is a perfect example of being set up for that.
Is it the perfect storm? I dunno, but we have encountered problems #1 and #2. And they are literally throwing money at it. But, if we go to #3, then all bets are off. And, with Trump the Dunce, we may have just the catalyst to get hurt badly.
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Keep unemployment low, keep inflation low, speak confidently about the economy, make a strong case for deficit spending aka pandemic war and the population will be conditioned to this government policy. Deficit spending is likely to be wide spread world wide thus adding to its justification.
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For a reference point, I hadn’t seen this article prior to my previous post. It kind of fills out what I was talking about:
https://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/bill-gates-calls-for-a-digital-certificate-to-identify-who-is-vaccinated/
Yes, I guess I might be as nutty as the folks who publish that website, or the ones who pushed the truth about 9/11, another nutcase idea I was all on board with when it happened…
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Bill Gates.
The billionaire who resigned from Microsoft 3 weeks ago to move into developing …….vaccines.?
That Bill Gates?
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And therein is proved the rule. I am in agreement that 911 DID NOT happen as they said. So, on that one, we are in agreement. Mind you, some of your folks would have the Dems doing it, the Queen, The Rothschilds and so on. Planes did not knock down two giant towers plus #7 which wasn’t even touched but which fell. I am onside with part of that conspiracy theory. But maybe not with who the finger is pointed.
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Hmmm,
Even the country hit the hardest with Covid deaths is now realizing the economic meltdown….may be worse….. 5 % die or 100% of the economy dies?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-industry-ins/impossible-dilemma-world-watches-italy-as-businesses-plead-to-return-to-work-idUSKBN21P27C
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We need to not be worrying about the dems/repubs, or the death of representative government. We are all being thrust into globalism (worldwide communism) with nothing to say about it. The ending of our economic systems is upon us, like it or not. There will be little choices presented to us. Free enterprise is history. Welcome Totalitarianism of the Global flavor. In a year, many of us are going to be starving to death:
The reduction in the world’s population will be accomplished through disease, starvation and trauma (and perhaps with help from some secret side effects of the required vaccines?…).
Our focus, to survive, should not be on politics but rather “How will we manage to eat enough” in a year from now? I’m really not concerned about what party will prevail in the next local election. The question is: How will we manage to not be hungry? and, How will we cope with our neighbors who haven’t managed that?
Sorry to sound so negative. I just don’t see where else this is headed?
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No need to apologize, Kev. You are the ‘in-house’ conspiracy guy. What you say is what you believe. All good. Most of us do not believe that stuff about world-this and world-that but, if it all speaks to you, then follow it. YOU just may be the nut-job we all call someday. Plus, that is easy for me to say because, just in my lifestyle, I am good for a long time. Less time should all the people I love and care about come but close to a year with sea-food supplements and maybe losing a bit of weight. We’re pretty secure.
Seriously? I have no problem with your point of view. Fill yer boots.
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